By Craig Andresen – The National Patriot and Right Side Patriots on cprworldwidemedia.net
In 2012, during the campaigns and amidst the prospect of another four years of the Obama regime, there were those amongst we Conservatives who followed the talking point s of the all-so-rightous, holier-than-thou wing of the far, FAR right and said…”better the Muslim we know than the Mormon we don’t” and either stayed home on election day or voted for Obama by casting their votes for a 3rd party or write in candidate.
They’re back…starting to make noise and poised to ensure the next and possibly last four years of our Constitutional Republic are in the hands of yet another liberal/socialist.
To do so, these people are cloaking their agenda in religion…again.
People like Wild Bill (for a theocracy) Finley who always ends his hate-fueled videos with the tag line of “may America bless God…again,” right after urging his viewers to donate to him so that he can continue to produce such videos… videos which he shoots without a crew on a tablet and posts to You Tube…for free.
Wild Bill (for a theocracy) likes to claim that our nation was founded on the principles of his particular brand of Christianity and he’s not alone in this misguided flim-flaming of history. Challenge Bill of any others who push this nonsense, and they will always come back at your challenge with some quote from some letter or some speech that one founder or another penned as their PROOF that America is and always has been a CHRISTIAN nation.
Let me put it this way…
The government of the United States is in no way founded in the Christian religion.
Settle down…I know…I never should have said that. In fact…I didn’t.
John Adams said it and as one of our founders…I’ll take his word for it as I b
elieve he was much closer to the actual situation that are any of the holier-than-thou flim-flammers.
I don’t care what Adams may have said at a meeting or written in some letter…so if you have some quote from him on the topic that proves nothing more than that Adams was a Christian in his personal life…stow it because, while Adams believed the PEOPLE should be faith-based…as far as our government is concerned, ”The government of the United States is in no way founded in the Christian religion.”
Thomas Jefferson echoed the words of John Adams in one of the few things the two really agreed upon when he stated, in 1814… “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
The struggle to avoid a theocracy in these United States isn’t new…in fact…it dates all the way back to the very beginning of our nation. As Thomas Jefferson was running for the nation’s highest office, he penned a letter to Benjamin Rush in September of 1800 where he took on the threat of such a theocracy…Jefferson said, of a certain group of religious leaders that they had “a very favorite hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity thro’ the U.S.; and as every sect believes its own form the true one, every one perhaps hoped for his own, but especially the Episcopalians & Congregatio
nalists.”
Oh my…it sounds as if Jefferson, again much closer to the situation of our founding principles than any flim-flammer with a You Tube account today, had a bone to pick with those who insisted their, and only their brand of Christianity be the foundation of our nation as he continued in his letter to Mr. Rush… “The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
Wow…that’s a real slap in the face to those who purport that our nation was founded in Christianity and I rather doubt the holier-than-thou among us will turn the other cheek but Jefferson was quite clear…while being a staunch believer in God himself…the writer of the Declaration of Independence and our third president most definitely viewed ANY form of theocracy or any attempt to instill ANY form of ANY particular BRAND of religion…EVEN CHRISTIANITY…into our government as a form of TYRANNY!
Thomas Paine said of religion and theocracy… “All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”
George Washington wrote a letter to the Baptist Chamber of Virginia in 1789 when THEY were vying for religious power and stated… “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than 
myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
Washington continued… “In this enlightened age, & in this land of equal liberty, it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining & holding the highest offices that are known in the United States.”
Hmmmmm…how did that 2012 talking point go again? Oh yes…”Better the Muslim we know than the Mormon we don’t.” Yes…George Washington was talking directly to you folks.
Still want to put forth the absurd notion that our nation’s foundation sits on the bedrock of Christianity? Mr. John Adams…if you would, please… “The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the 
American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”
Our founders and framers were abundantly clear on the subject despite the bloomer bunching and panty wadding of the holier-than-thou crowds then and now that government had no business being in religion nor did religion have any business being in government.
Even BEFORE the founding of our nation, in 1773, Isaac Backus stated… “God has appointed two kinds of government in the world, which are distinct in their nature, and ought never to be confounded together; one of which is called civil, the other ecclesiastical government.” In other words…let not civil law as engineered by man ever mix with religious law engineered by God or visa versa. This is the very sentiment that 
became…”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”
The Declaration of Independence was a formal indictment not only of King George but of the very notion of any form of government based on any interpretation of religious edicts and set forth a nation whose foundation as a Republic rested then, and forever, on the Constitution…the only true law of our land…written by man and NOT found in cherry-picked versions of scripture.
There will be those who claim that this article is anti-Christian and that I, as the author of it, am anti-Christian because I don’t ascribe to their lies that our nation was founded in Christianity and thusly, that I am not a true Conservative for the same reason but nothing could be farther from the truth. REAL Conservatives know and understand that our 
founders and framers were overtly deliberate, despite many available quotations that denote some of their beliefs that our Constitution and our government was made for a moral and religious people, in keeping THEIR personal beliefs in faith OUT of their politics and that the very trust they put in US, as future generations, was to do the same so as NOT to allow, in any way, shape or form, any brand of ANY religion to weasel its way INTO our nation’s politics.
LYING about the role of Christianity in the founding of our nation by insisting that the very foundation OF our nation is rooted in faith is neither a Christian trait nor a Conservative one and I believe that to be the belief of our founders that those who do so are advocating the downfall OF our nation while shrouding their nefarious intentions in a mask of false faith that when removed, reveals the face of tyranny.
Just as our founders and framers intended, I say CLING to your religious faith in your PERSONAL life…let your PERSONAL beliefs in whatever faith you choose GUIDE your morals and how you treat others but…when it comes to your politics…when it comes to VOTING…park that sacred bull outside your place of polling and cast your ballots in accordance to the CO
NSTITUTION and not your individual interpretation of the Bible.
To do otherwise or to advocate otherwise…while begging for donations to keep your message of holier-than-thou flim-flamery coming on a free You Tube service is…well…perhaps best stated by Thomas Jefferson himself in a letter to Elbridge Gerry dated January 26th, 1799…
“History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
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We are a Constitutional Republic. Christianity does not create, write, or enforce our laws. Being a moral, responsible American does not require being a Christian. It is the responsibility of all of us, whether Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Atheist, Mormon, Hindu, etc… to be a moral, responsible human and to pass these things on to each generation. Regardless of one’s religious beliefs, we should all demand a civil society to live in, and an honest, transparent government that protects our rights, safety, and freedoms.
Wasn’t the Republican Party of the past basically a more secular, conservative, civic minded and inclusive party than it is now? Hasn’t the radical Christian Right movement hurt true Conservative politicians and forced many otherwise Conservatives away from the Right and the GOP with their Jesus or nothing politics? Even FOX News has become obnoxious with their push and support for Christian politics, thus turning off and loosing a lot of Americans who would otherwise benefit from much of their reporting not found on the lefty, main stream news broadcasts which most certainly caters to liberal lefties who kiss Obama’s ring. It is no secret that the Christian Coalition’s central goals are to control the agenda of the Republican party by working from the grassroots up to elect Christian candidates to public office. America is capable of being pro-family, moral, responsible, and open to all religions and beliefs without being led only by a Christian.
your article is full of lies. Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and George Washington were indeed Christians. The Constitution is based on divine law aka natural law. Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness are Christian ideals certainly not Islamic. Islam is about death, and war. You take pleasure in bashing the “holy rollers”. Why is that? Who are these Holy rollers? I’m a Christian and I don’t know these people, how do you? The left won the culture wars generations ago. Christianity is in decline and so is its wonderful experiment, the USA. What has the smut-slut left brought to America? ruined infrastructure, ruined neighborhoods, failed schools, ruined families/childhoods, terrible debt that we will never pay back. (I wrote a more detailed article but unfortunately it was lost)
Wolfy…in fact, MANY of the founders were Deists and many while brought up as Christians, declined to follow it as a practice. Here’s a good link to the TRUTH: http://www.earlyamerica.com/early-america-review/volume-2/secular-government/
” Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness are Christian ideals”
Sorry, they are HUMAN ideals. They are the desires of free people who despise tyranny, no matter what their religion. I don’t know if you have fallen for pseudo-historian David Barton’s lies, but it sounds like you have. Those pesky little facts got in his way.
Craig, you’re trying to separate the strawberries from the strawberry shortcake. We say we’re “one nation under God.” We say we’re endowed by our “Creator with certain unalienable rights.” We say we have Christian values and a Christian work ethic. All these things were essential to the creation of our shortcake. They are not to be separated. Our Framers did not explicitly endorse any particular religion because they did not want a dominating religious dictatorship. They wanted a constitutional government, wherein all our various true religions can exist side by side.
Agreed. George Washington wrote in his Circular to the Governors of the States in 1783…pray that God protect them and “most graciously be pleased to dispose us al to do justice, to love mercy and to demean ourselves with that Charity, humility and pacific temper of mind, which were the characteristics of the divine author of our BLESSED RELIGION….” sounds like a Christian to me. Ben Franklin wanted to ban Jews from entering the USA because “the menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.. they have lowered its moral tone, depreciated its commercial integrity …have sneered at and tried to undermine the CHRISTIAN RELIGION UPON WHICH THAT NATION WAS FOUNDED..” if Ben was so anti Christian why would he care what the Jews did in Christian countries? doesn’t make sense. And life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is 100% Christian. With the exception of the Zoroastrian faith (huge impact on Christianity) what other faith promotes “happiness”? For most of its existence, the USA was a Christian land of a Christian people- not anymore. Ben’s prediction came true and its nothing to brag about unless you’re a lefty/ Bolshevik or a Muslim. The author of the above article can bash Christianity all he wants, it just demonstrates his bigotry that’s all.
Wolfy…I never bashed Christianity in this article…in fact…I said “Just as our founders and framers intended, I say CLING to your religious faith in your PERSONAL life…let your PERSONAL beliefs in whatever faith you choose GUIDE your morals and how you treat others but…when it comes to your politics…when it comes to VOTING…park that sacred bull outside your place of polling and cast your ballots in accordance to the COconst 8NSTITUTION and not your individual interpretation of the Bible.” THAT is not bashing ANY religion. Our founders separated their personal beliefs and faith, whatever faith they ascribed to in order to found a nation based on NO individual religion…as THAT…a THEOCRACY…was what they had just declared their independence FROM.