So…When we, as Conservatives, say that liberals…socialists really…Want to disarm We the People…WE’RE crazy?
WE’RE just making stuff up?
WE’RE the extremists and…
WE’RE lying?
Really.
The denials of socialists when confronted with facts would be whimsical were the facts not so dire and despite what socialists will tell you, the implications are more dire than the facts.
First, let’s have a look at what a few historical “gun control” advocates had to say in THEIR day.
“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA – ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.”
Heinrich Himmler
“If the [political] opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”
Josef Stalin
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.”
Adolf Hitler
Edict of March 18, 1938, H.R. Trevor-Roper, Hitler’s Table Talks 1941-1944 (London: Widenfeld and Nicolson, 1953, p. 425-426)
1938(9?)-03-18
There is a reason I open this article with those 3 quotes from 3 of the most ruthless, murderous curs of history.
I want you to keep those quotes top of mind as you read the rest of this article.
Today, socialists tell you and want desperately for you to believe that their call for “gun control” is for the safety of children.
It is anything but that.
As I have stated before, the REAL reason for these calls for “gun control” is to disarm the public. For that…I am called crazy by socialists.
Crazy, am I?
“There is little sense in gun registration. What we need to significantly enhance public safety is domestic disarmament . . . . Domestic disarmament entails the removal of arms from private hands . . . . Given the proper political support by the people who oppose the pro-gun lobby, legislation to remove the guns from private hands, acts like the legislation drafted by Senator John Chafee [to ban handguns], can be passed in short order.”
signed by Henry Cisneros and Kurt Schmoke
Communitarian Network’s The Case for Domestic Disarmament
HC is the Former Secretary of HUD, KS was Baltimore Mayor
“Why should America adopt a policy of near-zero tolerance for private gun ownership? Because it’s the only alternative to the present insanity. Without both strict limits on access to new weapons and aggressive efforts to reduce the supply of existing weapons, no one can be safer. … [W]ho can still argue compellingly that Americans can be trusted to handle guns safely? We think the time has come for America to tell the truth about guns. They are not for us. We cannot handle them.”
Editorial, Taming The Monster: Get Rid of the Guns, Los Angeles Times, B6
1993-12-28
“The only way to discourage the gun culture is to remove the guns from the hands and shoulders of people who are not in the law enforcement business.”
New York Times
1975-09-24
“Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.”
Janet Reno
U.S. Attorney General
1993-12-10
Obviously, this is not a NEW call for disarming the people, is it?
As I have stated over and over, socialists intend to do this in bits and pieces, little by little, until We the People have been stripped of our 2nd Amendment rights and the ability to protect ourselves.
“Gun violence won’t be cured by one set of laws. It will require years of partial measures that will gradually tighten the requirements for gun ownership, and incrementally change expectations about the firepower that should be available to ordinary citizens.”
New York Times
1993-12-21
When I or, ANY Conservative states the FACT that socialists are intentionally and systematically removing our rights in this regard, we are met with a dismissive sneer and told we are simply making up baseless accusations.
Is that right?
Baseless accusations???
“You know the one thing that’s wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say.”
Bill Clinton
1993-05-29
“Yes, I’m denying you your rights.”
Tom Bradley
on constitutional rights at a “Save the Brady Bill” rally. Steve Comus, Western Outdoor News
L.A. Mayor
1992-09-04
“To hell with the constitution…”
Mike Roos
on the constitutionality of the Roberti-Roos assault weapon ban
Assemblyman (CA)
1989
“If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit tho
se guarantees.”
Bill Clinton
1993-08-12
“The constitution is a radical document. It is the job of government to reign in people’s rights.”
Bill Clinton
(MTV, 1992 or 1993?)
Last week, a local NY newspaper published, online, an interactive map providing the names and addresses of REGISTERED gun owners.
I, and others stated that they were treating the law abiding registered gun owners like criminals by publishing such a map as we usually see on websites alerting citizens to sex offenders.
Naturally, socialists claimed they did it for safety reasons. “Don’t you WANT to know WHO in YOUR neighborhood has a GUN in their home???”
Socialists claim it has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with painting ANY law abiding registered gun owner as some sort of criminal.
Let’s see who is lying shall we???
“We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that… If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime.”
Mary Ann Carlson
State Senator (VT)
“Our goal is to not allow anybody to buy a handgun. In the meantime, we think there ought to be strict licensing and regulation. Ultimately, that may mean it would require court approval to buy a handgun.”
Michael K. Beard
Washington Times, p. A1
President of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
1993-12-06
“…the only people who use them [so-called assault weapons] are mass murderers…”
Charles Schumer
PBS debate with Bill McCollum
U.S. Senator (D-NY)
1996
Right after the horrible event in Newtown Connecticut, not letting a crisis go to waste, Obama ran to the microphones and stated that something HAD to be done. “We can’t tolerate this anymore,” he said.
He set into motion a special committee to examine the issue of “gun control” and who did he put in charge of that committee?
Everybody’s favorite crazy uncle…Joe Biden.
On December 20th, in my article, URGENT!!! Amerika…THIS is Your Final Warning!!! I stated the following:
Biden has been put in charge of Obama’s commission to end gun violence.
The reason this isn’t at all laughable is because Biden couldn’t lead anyone’s way out of a wet paper sack and Obama damned well knows it.
Biden, therefore, is nothing but a figurehead and future pavement under a Canadian made bus should anything go wrong.
The entire commission, whoever should be appointed to it is a sham.
To be succinct…This panel or commission or board…Whatever it ends up being labeled…Is nothing different from the group of scum who drew up the Sharia law “constitution” for Morsi in Egypt.
It’s a kangaroo committee.
For this, socialists claimed I was fear mongering and that, according to them, my opinion was unfounded.
Unfounded?
“Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.”
Joseph Biden
quoted by AP
U.S. Senator
1993-11-18
Crazy Joe was, of course, backed up by another…On the same exact day.
“Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of Americans to feel safe.”
Dianne Feinstein
quoted by the Associated Press
U.S. Senator (D-CA)
1993-11-18
I, and I suspect you, as Conservatives often bring up the 2nd Amendment. We stand FOR it and we adhere TO it.
We KNOW what it says and we know WHY it was written by the framers.
Socialists know it too but, whenever I state the fact that socialists are intentionally trying to alter historical fact, I, and I suspect you, as conservatives are roundly dismissed.
“Like flat earth fanatics, Second Amendment fanatics just don’t get it. Facts are facts. The earth is not flat. And Constitutional law is Constitutional law. The Second Amendment is not absolute. It does not guarantee the mythical individual right to bear arms we will hear argued for today. The gun lobby and its friends in Congress can line up professors of history and law from here to NRA headquarters and back. They can all swear what they think the Second Amendment means, and how many angels can dance on a pinhead. But the settled law is flatly against them.”
Charles Schumer
statement before the House Subcommittee on Crime
U.S. Representative (D-NY)
1995-04-05
And, should these new “gun control ideologies become law, who exactly will be in charge of enforcing them?
Eric Holder, who gave to the Mexican drug cartels the very weapons he wants YOU brainwashed into believing must be done away with, of course.
Okay, now I want to leave you with a little something else upon which to chew.
Remember those historically evil quotes with which I opened this article?
I have said, both in print and in person, that the very reason FOR the 2nd Amendment is for We the People to have the ability to protect our lives, our families and our property against those who would take them from us AND from our own government.
I have been roundly scolded by socialists for this and told that there is NO tyrannical government from which we would EVER need, as citizens, an assault style weapon to protect us.
Oh really?
The Department of Homeland Security has purchased 450 MILLION rounds of .40 HOLLOW POINT ammo and, DHS has in the works, the proposition to purchase an ADDITIONAL 750 MILLION rounds including .357 MAG rounds capable of penetrating walls.
The Social Security Administration has purchased 174,000 rounds of .357 ammo…Supposedly for their agents who investigate Social Security Fraud and are to be used in the upcoming fiscal year. That’s 590 rounds PER AGENT for 1 YEAR.
The USDA ordered some 326 thousand rounds of ammo.
And…The National Weather Service ordered 46 thousand rounds.
Now to be fair, the National Weather Service clarified the ammo order and said the “solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement mistakenly identified NOAA’s National Weather Service as the requesting office.”
Okay…Why does NOAA need ammo???
Well…NOAA then clarified the order and claimed the order was for “other” law enforcement agencies who would be using the ammo and paper targets for practice.
So…WHICH other “law enforcement agencies” and why…EXACTLY…does ANYONE purchase…46,000 ROUNDS OF HOLLOW POINT AMMUNITION TO SHOOT HOLES IN…PAPER TARGETS???
So go ahead socialists…Tell us WE’RE the ones lying. Tell us WE’RE just making this stuff up. Dismiss us, call us fear mongers and claim that we don’t know what we’re talking about.
In this article are YOUR words…YOUR agenda…YOUR reasoning…YOUR decades old ideology and YOUR plans combined with YOUR socialist administration’s CURRENT ACTIONS regarding the purchase of enough rounds of ammo to put at least 5 bullets into each and every American.
One has to wonder…How much ammunition was being stockpiled by governments while Stalin, Hitler and Himmler were telling THEIR people they had nothing to fear and that…”gun control,” removing guns from THEIR law abiding citizens was for THEIR own safety.
Go ahead socialists…TRY to put the tooth paste back in the tube.
Craig Andresen
The National Patriot
Weekend Edition 12/29/12
For MORE of their own words on “gun control” CLICK HERE.
I thought that perhaps people reading an article entitled “Gun control: Socialists in their own words” would be interested in hearing what this socialist, as well as the most famous socialist in history, thought about gun control. that was my mistake.
Instead, you decided to focus on an afterthought, an obvious reference to Godwin’s la, and ignore anything of real substance. Yes.. the Nazis as well as the Bolsheviks and Chinese supported and enacted strict gun control laws. The Leadership Conference of Religious Women also supports gun control. If your going to compare people who clearly aren’t Nazis or Bolsheviks to the likes of Stalin and Hitler, then you might as well throw the LCRW (an organization of nuns) in the mix with the liberals.
I don’t like Democrats, Nazis, or Bolsheviks anymore than you do (which should have been obvious when I referred to myself as a libertarian socialist). I probably like government even less than you do. The point I was trying to make with my afterthought, is that the only thing these sort of comparisons are good for is making rational people think your insane. The only people patting you on the back for it, are people who already were. It hurts, what is in this case, our shared cause (opposition to gun control).
I understand that the typical American “leftist” (really just a liberal) supports gun control. I understand that many totalitarian regimes have pursued gun control. I understand that many on the American right have what may be a legitimate concern about American “leftists” (liberals), in fact I share some of those concerns, but try not to paint the left with such a broad brush.
I am an American libertarian socialist (not an oxymoron. The history is there, look it up. Predates what most in this country think of as libertarianism), who has also taken considerable influence from Karl Marx. When it comes to an armed populace, let me offer a quote from Marx to some up my feelings about gun control…..
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers should be frustrated, by force if necessary”
I support an armed populace.
Ps. Nobody wins when you start comparing people to Hitler.
Anonymous…
As per your Ps…
By all means, let us never speak the words of Hitler or show how the ACTIONS of Hitler compare to someone else so that we may ignore the most valuable lessons of the 20th century.
The mere fact that you say I compared someone to Hitler makes my point perfectly clear…You don’t seem to mind any such comparison to Stalin, Mao, Lenin,
even they all did the same thing…Disarm their people.
And by the way…I have the courage of my convictions to place my name on what I write but, sadly…You do not.
Anyone who who is determined to take a stand sould not do so whilt sitting down.
Craig
The part of Holder’s interview that you missed is the part where he says it is Hollywood’s fault. He might be onto something…..
It is one thing to portray shoot outs, but quite another for guns to be connected to sexual pleasure. Have you ever considered Beyonce’s performances? They attempt in the “Demand a PLan” ad to make her look like Palinesque, but in reality, she is nothing of the sort.
Those very stars are the ones that create a blood lust culture. Tedd Nugent, Palin, and others have always portrayed weapons in a responible way. This is a sharp contrast to Beyonce and others who portray them in a different light.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoLz45bV7jE
Perhaps those calling for these measures should take a history class so they can learn the reason for the 2nd amendment. It was not written for hunting or sporting ownership of weapons. It was written to validate the right of freemen to fight tyranny. Do they forget how our country was founded? Sad to think free men and women would forsake their rights, affirmed by our founders, so they could relinquish control of their destiny to bureaucrats only concerned with re-election.
Their is no compromise on liberty, else one is a subject, not a citizen.
OK they ban guns ….Who is going to enforce it????? The military when they know we’re here to protect our Country because their over their protecting us….The police when they know the criminals all have guns and know that we said it many times NOT MINE???? Everybody is hopeing it’s the NATO troops because there won’t be enough of them???? Watching alot of comments WE THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LET IT HAPPEN…
I have sent letters to Obama, letters to my Congressmen, even posted links for others to send the same on my Facebook (which has not been shut down yet) and I have about 800 friends, hoping that if they get flooded with letters supporting armed citizens, we just might win this. Not sure, I have a bad feeling about all of this, and I think this time we are going to get banned. How else can the agenda be completed unless they disarm us.
Under no circumstances should Americans hand over their weapons. I smell tyranny. Unless we want to be reduced to throwing rocks to defend ourselves.
Let me correct Bill Clinton’s First quote to reflect what he REALLY means…
“If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to CONTROL the people, we should look to REMOVE those those guarantees”.
That, my friends, is what they really mean.
BIG PHARMA IN BUSINESS WITH GOVT!!!!!! DISTRACTING WITH THE WELL KNOWN GUN AGENDA THEYVE HAD PLANNED FOR DECADES!!!! WE DONT NEED GUN CONTROL!!!! WE NEED DRUG AND BIG PHARMA CONTROL!!!!! ****STOP DRUGGING OUR CHILDREN!!!! AND, TELL THE DAMN TRUTH!!!!
The TRUE SOURCE of RANDOM & MASS SHOOTINGS and VIOLENCE: GOVT / BIG PHARMA KNOW THE TRUTH!!!! BUT, HIDE IT!!! http://youtu.be/UhO0Pul_FcE
Ban guns>kill unwanted babies in utero..makes sense to me > NOT…as soon as these politicians turn in their gun permits and their kids go to unguarded schools and the secret service doesn’t pack heat and every criminal is off the street…and every seriously mentally ill person in institutionalzed, should we even ” DISCUSS” the idea of relinquishing our right to defend family, home, possesions and freedom.
I have to disagree with Mr. Andresen. I think all guns should be confiscated by our trusted government. Then we can pull the teeth of all pit bulls, and declaw all of the grizzly bears. It will be safer for the deer if the grizzlies have no claws. Then of course, we will have to deantler all of the deer to keep the grizzlies safe.
But just think of all the jobs that will be created by the government to bring about the safest nation in the world – ever!
Peace,
Robert Walker
Find friends…stay prepared…and when the confiscation starts…band together…